UTAU wiki talk:Teto Kasane/Archive 1

I don't get how being a chimera would make her half as old as she actually is. Can someone please explain this?--Sacul097 23:27, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * It looked like a botched character design, considering she was an April Fools joke, so that explanation was thrown in to make her profile believable. By any sane standards, she is nothing like a 31 year old girl, and surely girls of that age don't sound like her. O Herman 09:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Age
By the official setting by Vip@2ch and official site, Teto was a chimera in the age of 31 as a joke. But some users dissented this idea for her appearance and voice gave the much younger image. So the parody setting of 15 years old as a human is also accepted widely, because as a joke again a chimera lives about 200 years, twice as a human does. In the song Kasane Territory, this setting is the converse. This is the mistake of the author. --Damesukekun 08:22, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

We do understand that the Teto's official age is 31. Yet the age of 15 as a joke is also widespread in both Nicovideo and YouTube users. Further, the independent article that says about Teto's "human age" exists on Nicopedia. テトの年齢について31才というのが公式設定であることは当 Wiki 編集者のあいだで十分認識されておりますが、ニコニコ動画ユーザのあいだで人間年齢15才というジョーク設定も同様に広く受け入れられており、海外ユーザ向けに表記することが適切であると考えます. http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/テトさんじゅういっさい http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4749699 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9272305 http://www24.atwiki.jp/utauuuta/pages/557.html We are contacting Twin Drill Office (TDO), the official support team of Kasane Teto for the reliable source, including this joke age. Do not push your edit unless TDO gives us the official comment. なお、このことも含めプロフィール全般について現在ツインドリル事務局に英語表記の問い合わせをしているところです. 記事改善については感謝しますが、拙速な編集はお控えいただきますようお願いします. -- Damesukekun / だめすけ 15:48, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

ここではキメラの年齢を人間の年齢に置き換えた場合何歳になるのか. まず基本的なキメラの年齢を人間年齢に換算する方程式は以下の通りである. What will be the age of a chimera when it is changed to that of a human? The equation which commutes the age of a basic chimera to the age of a human is as follows;
 * >Further, the independent article that says about Teto's "human age" exists on Nicopedia.
 * Could you translate the article into English? --Hfunji 13:51, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * The article is this:

キメラの推定平均寿命＝√(キメラの元になった生命体の数)キメラの元になった生命体すべての平均寿命の乗算×キメラの元になった生命体の数で求められる. Chimera's estimated average lifespan＝√(number of the life forms which compose a chimera) multiplication of all the average lifespans of life forms which compose a chimera × the number of life forms which compose a chimera

重音テトはボーカロイドと人間の女性のキメラと考えられる. ボーカロイドの寿命は詳しくはわからないが、２００年前のからくり人形がかろうじて稼働する事から、それに準じたものと考えられる. よって計算すると、 Kasane Teto is thought to be the chimera of a Vocaloid and a human female. The exact lifespan of a Vocaloid is not known, yet an automaton of 200 years old barely works so a Vocaloid is considered as well.

√(2)200×82×2=√(2)32800=181(端数切り捨て) 31/181=0.17127(以下切り捨て) 82×0.17127=14.04414

√(2)200×82×2=√(2)32800 =181(rounded) 31/181=0.17127(rounded) 82×0.17127= 14.04414

よって、彼女の年齢を人間の年齢に換算すると、およそ１４歳であると結論できる. Therefore, the age 14 is the conclusion when her age is converted to that of the human form.

Of course, this article is a part of the chimera joke. -- Damesukekun 00:18, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks a Lot! Everything's clear now. I didn't know Teto's age was 14. --Hfunji 12:26, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

True, テトさんじゅういっさい is a play on words. If you read it as テト・さんじゅういっさい then "Teto, thirty-one years old" and テトさん・じゅういっさい then "Teto-san, eleven years old." But this is not the point of this article unlike Meiko. "よって、彼女の年齢を人間の年齢に換算すると、およそ１４歳であると結論できる. " is the conclusion. The title and the item are conflicting one another, but this page is just a joke as is often the case with Nicopedia so you don't have to be so fussy. The truth is that the age 15 or 15.5 is the most prevailing knowledge, then 14 is the second. -- Damesukekun 12:49, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * You said This article is about Teto's "human age". Why didn't you translate all article ? The main article says "Teto's age is 11" . -- Nico25 11:19, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem to be reading the Japanese in the wrong way. I translated the full article.
 * 15 is the most prevailing knowledge because you said so? 11 is the most popular joke in niconico. And You know you didn't translate the full article. --Nico25 03:33, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

You seem to be confusing the the user's posts in the lower part with the main lines in the upper part on the Nicopedia page. They are just comments, not a part of the main article. If you hope the discussion, remove the misleading message above first. -- Damesukekun 15:14, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. The main article is the top of the page. I know the lower parts are the user's posts. --Nico25 00:19, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

It is confusing because you are lying.

At first, You said "Teto is 15."and "the independent article that says about Teto's human age exists on Nicopedia."

Of cource, non-Japanese speakers think the article says about Teto being 15 yo because they can't read the article.

But the article is about "Teto-san, eleven years old." that has nothing to do with 15 yo.

And when you were told to translate them, you didn't translate the article's title nor main article but translated only additional joke.

Of cource, non-Japanese speakers think this is main article because they can't read even the article's title.

And when you were pointed out the article's title, you said "this page is just a joke. so don't be so fussy"

What are you doing? All you are thinking is How to deceive non-Japanese speakers. --Nico25 00:32, April 17, 2010 (UTC) 該当記事の結論はあくまで「よって、彼女の年齢を人間の年齢に換算すると、およそ１４歳であると結論できる. 」であり、本文中には１１歳の表記は全く存在しません. 記事のタイトルと内容が矛盾しているのはあくまでニコニコ大百科の責任であり、苦情はそちらへ言うべきです. 私は記事本文を訳しただけであり、あなたが私を「deceive non-Japanese speakers」と断言するのは全くの的外れで誹謗中傷です. さらに、何度も言うようにあなたは自らの主張に全く根拠を挙げていません. なお、誹謗中傷はウィキペディアで禁止されており、今後もあなたが私への中傷を繰り返すならばペナルティーを申請します. -- Damesukekun 06:50, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * あなたは日本語が理解できるようなので日本語で書きます.


 * ALL RIGHT. THIS SITUATION HAS HIT ROCK BOTTOM.
 * I wanted to refrain from joining in, since I believed it could be settled amicably. I guess some situations don't work out that way.
 * Right from the very start, Japanese fandom has always dictated that Teto's human age is 15. Damesukekun even showed information that explicitly says so. (and even that skewed data also points to something similar.)
 * But to say to a REAL Japanese person (FYI Damesukekun teaches English in Japan!) spending his free time here to make the Wiki orderly for non-Japanese people is lying is outright insulting.
 * I'm sorry, Nico25, but this has gone past the point of tolerance. Heads are gonna roll. O Herman 09:58, April 17, 2010 (UTC)